Q&A with self-taught Pieter de Waal on infidels and making freaky-geeky wines.

Thursday, 30 October, 2014
Kim Maxwell
Self-taught winemaker Pieter de Waal loves SA sauvignon blanc but says now it’s time to make something else. Kim Maxwell chats with him about infidels, oversleeping and making freaky-geeky wines.

Would you describe yourself as a garagiste? With Hermit on the Hill I started off as a garagiste, moved away from it, and I’m now scaling down on volumes again. The future Hermit on the Hill will be focused only on freaky and geeky wines.

Where do you make wine? I make Hermit on the Hill in proper cellars, and supply it to restaurants and wine shops. But I’ve made experimental wines in my garage and in my house. My dining room has five barrels of hobby wines next to the couch: two Shiraz, two Gamay Noir and a small barrel of Portuguese Bastardo.

What don’t people know about you? I own a 1967 Birmingham Small Arms Thunderbolt motorbike. It’s red, with pannier boxes on the side. I bought it 21 years ago and don’t use it often enough.

Hermit on the Hill Infidel 2012 broke the mould when it ranked in this year’s Sauvignon Blanc Top 10 competition. Is that a big deal? Yes, it’s called The Infidel because it breaks the Sauvignon Blanc winemaking rules. It tastes different because it’s made differently to most: the juice is exposed to air, it’s fermented with no added yeast, and spends 10 months in old barrels. I’ve only made the Infidel twice and don’t expect to make it again – the vineyard was pulled up.

Are competitions important? They’re there because consumers want to see stars and medals. I vowed never to enter competitions when I started making wine in 2000. The Sauvignon Blanc top 10 was the first competition I’ve entered – I wanted to show there’s space for different styles.

Memorable travel situation? I missed a flight from London to Marseille due to an accident delay on my way to the airport. I rebooked my flight and went to dinner with friends. The evening ended with a great bottle of grappa – the next morning I missed the flight again. I had to drive four hours to the only airport with a flight out that day. The rebooking charges were more than I paid for the original ticket.

What’s the deal with the Infidel label? When I married Laura, my old friend Conrad designed the label as a wedding gift. I have an honours in economics and an MBA, so the ‘pigs might fly’ reference is to me becoming a winemaker. There’s a slave bell because I’m not a slave to tradition. There’s a Monty Python pram because I’m a fan, and because I got married at 41 and we had a child.

Your hidden talent? I once auctioned off a roll of toilet paper for R8000 and a box containing absolutely nothing for R15000. It was for charity.

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